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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by windfeather on Today at 08:01:30 AM »
its another day
please enjoy
 :)
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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by Eagle on Today at 07:10:46 AM »
another day went by
Yes
i hope you're ok
I'm fine, thank you. Hope you are ok too.
and that life is not too much
Guess it's what we make of it.
and that youu have time to say something
I took the time..:)

Think on This

And to "get even" is a dangerous thing, as the entity experienced, has experienced, may experience in the present - to even determine it in the mental self, and much worse to attempt to materialize it in the material sense, and is a disregard of spiritual growth and development.

Edgar Cayce reading 263-15

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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by windfeather on November 18, 2017, 08:36:30 PM »
another day went by
i hope you're ok
and that life is not too much
and that youu have time to say something
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Predictions / the weather
« Last post by windfeather on November 18, 2017, 08:28:31 PM »
on monday it was cloudy
on tuesday it rained
on wednesday the sun came out
life flourished
hearts were born
the old became new
few things remained the same
we were happy to be alive
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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by Rainmusic on November 18, 2017, 08:14:39 PM »
LOl...ROFLOL>>>>> :P
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Predictions / Re: tsunami today
« Last post by FirstCat on November 18, 2017, 10:32:10 AM »
timelines are confusing when telling the future.  The today you saw was today when you saw it.  But which today?  we can never know for sure.  Do you have any visions of where?  There was an earthquake in Iran and terrible storms in the Mediterranean. Hmmmm......
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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by Eagle on November 18, 2017, 07:57:26 AM »
Think on This

You only fail if you quit trying. The trying is oft counted for righteousness.

Edgar Cayce reading 3292-1
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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by Eagle on November 17, 2017, 07:14:43 AM »
Think on This

Learn, then, to stand oft aside and watch self pass by – even in those influences that at times are torments to thy mind.

Edgar Cayce reading 3292-1
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Think on These Things / Re: Think on These Things
« Last post by Eagle on November 16, 2017, 07:30:13 AM »
Think on This

Dreams give the better understanding of self.

Edgar Cayce reading 3744-4
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Author's Board / Re: Today's selection
« Last post by Eagle on November 16, 2017, 07:28:34 AM »

Today's encore selection -- from The First Presidential Contest by Jeffrey Pasley. The Electoral College was perhaps the least successful element of the U.S. Constitution. (And not unexpectedly, modifications to the Electoral College process came quickly.) The Framers did not want the public to directly elect the president, since previous experiments in direct elections at the state level had reinforced the conclusion that pure democracy was too dangerous. But the framers didn't want Congress to elect the president either, because that would lead to "cabal faction & violence." So the idea was adopted of having influential or "notable" community leaders who were not in Congress as electors, with the people voting for these electors because they believed they had good judgment. And these electors were expected to use that good judgment to cast their votes rather than simply reflect the choice of the people:

"We must [now] delve into the work­ings of America's murkiest political institution, the indirect system of presidential elections now known as the Electoral College. If ever there were a constitutionally defined role for America's local 'notables,' the Electoral College was it.
"The national 'college' never met, acting instead as a filtering mechanism to concentrate the large pool of names that bubbled up from be­low. The guiding logic was that the country was too big, and even most of its locally prominent men too parochial, to ever coalesce around a single candidate other than General George Washington. Most would vote for someone from their own state or region, argued Connecticut's Roger Sherman, generating a list too large and miscellaneous to be use­ful. At the same time, it was considered too dangerous to have a sin­gle body like Congress choose the chief magistrate all on its own: that could lead to 'cabal faction & violence' as in the elective monarchy of Poland, where nobles and foreign governments battled it out to name a new king. So Article II, Section I of the Constitution provided for each state legislature to designate, by whatever method it chose, a number of electors equal to the size of its congressional delegation (the number of House members plus two for each state's equal number of senators). Each state's electors were then to gather simultaneously, in their own state, to prevent said cabals. Each elector would then vote for two men, including at least one man who was not from the elector's home state. Next the electors were to send their certified lists to Congress, where the votes would be compiled and the two top vote getters named president and vice president if they were selected by a majority of the electors. If not, then Congress would make the decision, according to complex rules that need not detain us here, choosing from the top five candidates the electors had voted for. At no point in any step of the process was anyone bound to vote a certain way (except for Congress choosing from the top five), and no provision was made, as we have seen, for running mates or party tickets. Instead, individual electors were to exercise their independent judgment of individual candidates.

"The format was a compromise hammered out in the last weeks of the Federal Convention in 1787 by the Committee on Postponed Parts, a working group made up of one member from each state delegation. The major issue the Electoral College settled was the summer-long dispute over how and by whom the new office of president would be filled. Given that one of the chief impulses behind the movement for a new Constitu­tion was the creation of a government insulated from the excessive de­mocracy and localism of the state governments, popular election of the president was a nonstarter at the Convention. A few of the large-state delegates made self-interested pitches for it, but most rejected the idea as impractical if not downright dangerous. George Mason of Virginia argued that 'it would be as unnatural to refer the choice of a proper character for chief Magistrate to the people, as it would, to refer a trial of colours to a blind man. The extent of the Country renders it impossible that the people can have the requisite capacity to judge of the respec­tive pretensions of the Candidates.' The other major option, selection of the president by Congress, had more proponents than nationwide democracy, but it reminded too many of what Americans considered the corrupt British parliamentary system with its unseparated powers (the prime minister controlling Parliament and the executive functions of government). A legislative election would also be a playground for conspirators and party-builders. Said Gouverneur Morris, 'It will be the work of intrigue, of cabal, and of faction: it will be like the election of a pope by a conclave of cardinals.'

"The idea of a secondary popular election, with the people choosing the choosers, was originally suggested by nationalist James Wilson of Pennsylvania, who was trying to preserve some advantage for the large states but also some element of democracy in the presidential selection process. Wilson did not do this because he was any great lover of the common man -- common Philadelphians had tried to kill him in the 'Fort Wilson' riots in 1779 because of his alleged softness toward Loy­alists. Wilson's attitude was more of a healthy fear; he had learned the hard way that in a free country, the common people needed to at least feel that their views were respected. Wilson's suggestion was ignored until John Dickinson of Delaware, arriving late to the deliberations of the Committee on Postponed Parts, challenged his colleagues over the legitimacy problems that a completely unelected president would face. Shocked that the Convention was still leaning toward a president se­lected by Congress, Dickinson wrote, 'I observed, that the Powers which we had agreed to vest in the President, were so many and so great, that I did not think, the people would be willing to deposit them with him, un­less they themselves would be more immediately concerned in his Elec­tion.' In response, James Madison immediately sketched out a version of Wilson's idea on a piece of paper, and the Electoral College was born.

"On paper, the Electoral College served well as a way to steer theo­retically between the large and small states and between oligarchy and democracy. What the Framers never discussed was how the thing was supposed to work in practice, or why it would be effective in meeting their goal of a chief magistrate who felt like the people's choice without being beholden to parties, parochial interests, or popular opinion. Ex­cesses of democracy were still a far bigger worry for most of the Fram­ers, who filled the Constitution with firebreaks against the potential depredations of the mob."

The First Presidential Contest: 1796 and the Founding of American Democracy
Author: Jeffrey L. Pasley
Publisher: University Press of Kansas
2013 by the University Press of Kansas
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